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  Has Anyone Ever Been "Shafted" By The Organization??

  by minimus in

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  since i've been re-reading crisis of conscience, i've come to appreciate that many good people have been "shafted" by those in the "truth".

  franz and company got the boot.

  my mom got removed as a regular pioneer.

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  shafted; in some ways yes. My story is mild compared to some on this forum who truly sacrificed their lives in dedication to the Watchtower.

  I got out reletively young before they could really shaft me in more permanent ways. But I did fight back before they could disfellowship me. I was young enough to move on with my life.

  Dad was an Elder and told me that they were "railroading me to disfellowshipping". That was a long time ago and I exited before they could really cut loose on me.

  What I missed ; and feel I was shafted over about ; was fun in childhood; childhood friends and memories of childhood holidays. I made up for lost time and rebuilt my life; edited to eliminate all the JW nonsense. It is , however; where I came from and I cannot forget my roots; accept it; deal with it and move on.

  Life has been good to me; the best revenge on the Watchtower is living well.
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  Harder

  by Music Mouth in

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  as you get older, do you find yourself gravitating towards softer music, or do you find you like the harder stuff as much as ever?.

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  I discovered that I really like the music of Blink 182; my kids think I'm nuts when I sing along or drum the rythym...."Dad, you're an old man, stop that"

  ...thanks kids, I love you too... but I 'm the man who taught you appreciation for the music of Philip Glass; Josephine Baker; Cole Porter.....I know good music when I hear it....
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  Monopoly - Bethel /JW Edition

  by TheEdge in

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  i was playing monopoly the other night and reminiscing on the different editions (i have the british, london one) - have played the american one, and various continental, and there are various ''movie'' editions -well, last night as i was playing, i was thinking how much fun a jw one would be....need a bit of input for this... eg, started to snigger when i picked up the ''it's your birthday.....'' i suggest ''it's your birthday, collect a shunning from each player''.

  then there's the free parking , err....''free bible study''?

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  ...what about going to jail?
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  seeking help

  by stopthepain in

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  i have never sought out proffesional help.i guess the way i am is part of that stubborn old school mentality of"i don't need any help".i think i can fight through alot of my feelings.as a raised,insecure,unhappy,negative ex jw child,do members on this forum think someone such as myself should seek psycological help(even if yes,why?

  )why can't i fully move on?does just vocalizing these issues help?.

  i know the answer,but i'm afraid to deal with it.i guess i'm just having a bad day.i'm glad i have this meesage board .youve all been great,sorry to bother with my pitifull emotions,.

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  stop the pain,

  we have all been there. The pain and the fog does eventually lift. There are competent people out there ( therapist) who can help you find your way. No one should have to go through this alone.

  This board IS a help; but alone is not enought. You NEED to develope new friendships and have new; positive life experiences to forget the JW negativity.

  A therapist will help you find your way and help you to think positively. Think of them as a life raft in a storm.

  IT CAN BE DONE. Good luck, hang in there and take each day at a time, Frank
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  Did you notice that they were a lot of "rich Witnesses" in the organization

  by inquirer in

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  i remember this guy once, after the book study (the one where you go to someone's house to study a book) boasting on this house he wanted to buy!

  it made me feel sick!

  he was showing off so much!

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  ..my parents and their immediate circle of JW friends were, indeed, well off financially.

  Most of them had several homes; had large sailboats which were kept in the Carribbean in the winter; and came back to Long Island in the summer; one was a TV producer ( whose soap opera was and still is well known).

  There were always new cars; and the local kingdom hall was built in a very affluent residential area.

  There were always trips away ( especially for National and International assemblies in far away places) In hindsite, the money aspect was played down quite a bit by my folks and their crowd.

  This same crowd later disowned them when we left.
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  JW's say they don't have a clergy class, whay do you think?..

  by Hecklerboy in

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  i remember back 8 years ago when i left the organization the elders were being called "jehovah's special appointed ones".

  i thought to myself that this was starting to become a clergy class.

  i mean if that doesn't set you about the rest of the flock, i don't know what does.

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  ...they will not admit to it , but those of us who have "been there", know that there is a "class" distinction between those that hold positions and those that do not.

  There is also; from what I remember, elitism that would make your head spin....
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  1975 and all that

  by helios in

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  i well recall the husband of my sister-law telling us the most earth shattering news.

  this was around 1973 and 1975 fever was starting to take over many individuals.

  with breathless excitement he told us the follow story.

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  wow, sounds like she was trying to call her spirit advisors via telephone and got the " busy circuit" recording.

  I also remember the 1975 fever, and I can tell you that it WAS NOT MADE UP. The watchtower will never admit to it ; but they started that date in everyones HEAD.

  They also bandied about the sciptural passage " the moment they shout PEACE AND SECURITY sudden destruction will be upon them." Well one summer they named a National assembly "the peace and security assembly ( circa early or mid 70s) and during the convention the headlines in the New York Post sang out "PEACE AND SECURITY"; of course everyone at this assembly was literally BREATHLESS waiting for the big announncement that armageddon had started. They simply announced that it was not jehovahs appointed time yet; and we should disregard the headlines.

  More Jw nonsense....
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  Never agian after 60 yr the holocaust

  by z in

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  when they were young, they fought the nazis, and then bore witness to the extreme depravity of which human beings are capable.

  now in or nearing their 80s and 90s, the allied soldiers who liberated the concentration camps of .

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  ..the full impact of this horror did not impress itself upon me until I had a family and kids of my own. I cannot think of anything more horrific in recent times.

  It continues to happen around the world; Cambodia; Rwanda....humanity has a dark; ugly side.
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  Ex JW T-Shirts & Merchandise

  by rebel8 in

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  i created some t-shirts and other stuff for myself to celebrate being an ex-jw, and thought i would share them.

  they can be found here: https://www.cafepress.com/escapewts.

  it's a color logo depicting rapunzel (from the fairy tale) escaping from her tower, with the caption "escaped from the 'tower".

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  franklin J

  ..great idea.

  Your marketing audience is limited, however, to x jws
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  Special meeting March 7

  by Samuel Thorsen in

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  my mother told me today that its going to be held a special meeting in all congregations worldwide at march 7.. .

  some new information is going to be released, and its very very secret indeed.

  we are not supposed to tell anyone what we heard at this meeting to the ones who have the meeting later the same week.

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  no doubt they will say how much closer we are to the time of the end....the preaching work must be increased.....

  ....it is all the same old message from 20 years ago....